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Revision 1 posted to TechCenter Chats - Wiki by DELL-Sheetal G on 1/30/2014 2:26:15 PM
Rasmus HaslundHey Lance
Lance BoleyHello ...
Lance Boleyyou are early ...
rolltidegahey hey hey
rolltidegai am early too!
Lance BoleyHey Shawn ... how are you ...
hypervfanHi
rolltidegaI am doing OK
Lance Boleyand Tom has joined too ...
Lance BoleyGood to hear ...
hypervfanCongrats on winning the karting race Ramus, good to know that we keep the trophy over here :)
hypervfan*Rasmus
Lance BoleyAh ... that is right ... Tom got it last year ...
Lance BoleyRasmus won everything ...
hypervfanyes, I saw that on his blog post :)
Rasmus HaslundThanks Tom :)
rolltidegaYou won so much you need to share with the rest of us. :=-D
Rasmus Haslundlol I tried my best hehe, but did not win that 2nd SSD from Samsung :)
hypervfanNice of you to let others win something as well :)
Rasmus HaslundWell you know what they say, you dont win silver medal... you loose gold :)
Rasmus HaslundI really missed both you Tom and Shawn at Dell World
hypervfanWould have been great to attend. Hope to be able to next year
Jeff Sullivanit's a bevy of rockstars! Hello everyone
hypervfanHi Jeff
Dennis SmithHey everyone!
Rasmus HaslundHeeey Dennis!
Rasmus Haslundand Jeff!
Jeff SullivanHey Tom, Rasmus
hypervfanHi Dennis
Rasmus HaslundThe LEADER of Dell TechCenter Community ;)
Rasmus HaslundThe GENERAL of...
Rasmus Haslund:)
Didier Van Hoyeevening all!
Rasmus HaslundHey Didier!
Didier Van HoyeHappy new year
Didier Van HoyeHi Rasmus :-)
hypervfanHi Didier
Dennis SmithSince most of you guys here were at Dell World....post any blogs you write in the rockstart forum so we can help socialize them
Didier Van HoyeGot one coming up ...
Didier Van HoyeFluid Cache for SAN
Dennis Smithsweet!
Dennis Smithwe are working on getting some tech videos up on that as well :)
Didier Van HoyeGood
Khaled Omarhello everyone
Rasmus HaslundHi Khaled
Rasmus HaslundIs Enterprise Forum 2014 dropped?
Rasmus HaslundEMEA
Khaled Omarhi @Haslund
Didier Van HoyeIt was in April right?
Rasmus HaslundYes
Dennis SmithHmm, haven't heard..it's still listed on the site http://dellenterpriseforum.com/emea/
rolltidegaHey Dennis
Khaled Omarhi Dennis
Lance BoleyThanks for joining everyone ... Welcome todays chat on Firmware Updates
Dennis Smithhey Shawn, Khaled
Lance BoleyWe have Raja with us today to tak about it more ...
Lance BoleyRaja take it away
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2Good Afternoon everyone.... and a happy new year
Khaled Omarto u too Raja
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2I am one of the Engineers here are Dell working on iDRAC7 and Lifecycle Controller... and firmware updates is one of the primary areas that I work on
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2Today I plan to cover a few new features that we have released with the latest iDRAC7 firmware and you are welcome to ask any firmware update questions in general
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 21. Firmware Rollback from the iDRAC7 Web Interface
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 22. Repository Based Updates to update multiple devices at the same time
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 23. Auto Updates to schedule updates to automatically happen at your desired system down time
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2Does that sound interesting to everyone ?
Rasmus HaslundYes indeed
Didier Van HoyeIt does :-)
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2great... feel free to ask any questions as they come up
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2Firmware Rollback has been a feature that we have supported from the LC (F10) console and via WSMAN as well
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2with the recent firmware release we have extended this feature to the iDRAC7 Web Intreface as well
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2what exactly does that mean ? you can now login to the iDRAC7 web interface and rollback all firmware versions to a version that cached in LC if you desired to do so
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2The iDRAC7 web interface has always supported rollback for the iDRAC firmware alone... are you familiar with this feature ?
Didier Van HoyeI have never needed it :-)
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2Great... we dont generally recommend downgrading to a previous firmware release unitl and unless it is really necessary
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2but there have been certain corner cases where customers had to use this feature and I can go over a few scenarios if required.
Khaled Omarmaybe corruption in the new firmware or the upgrade process requires this rollback
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2exactly... and also to maintain all servers at the same firmware level... newer machines ship with the latest firmware from the factory
Didier Van HoyeI once hear we could use XML templates for BIOS settings
Didier Van HoyeCould you elaborat on that
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2and it might not match with the firmware thats running on all other machines in your DataCenter... at which point you can use the rollback feature to downgrade to a desired firmware level
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2The firmware rollback from iDRAC7 is just an extension of the iDRAC7 rollback feature, which now enables us to rollback all firmwares, that is NIC, BIOS, RAID etc along with the iDRAC7 firmware
Khaled Omarwhy we focus on rollback the newer machines and not updating the old firmwares to the latest one ?
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2The firmware rollback lists out all rollbacks that are available along with the version it would rollback to... you can pick and choose the ones that you want to rollback...
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2Great question Khaled....
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2most customers have a test bed of known machines, devices and firmware levels that they rely on....
Dell_Selva Subbiah@Didier - Yes you can use Configuration XML template for BIOS settings and more
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2they go over an extended test cycle before upgrading their machines to the newer firmware levels....
Dell_Selva Subbiahhere is a video that talks about that feature - http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/m/videos/20437569.aspx
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2hence when they just buy once new machine to add to their data center, they rollback / downgrade that particular machine to a known firmware level that has been tested in their environment
Didier Van HoyeThx
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2Khaled, does that answer your question ?
Khaled Omarand this rollback can be done for multiple devices simultaneously ?
Khaled Omaryes
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2that is correct, if you are performing the rollback from the iDRAC Web interface, you can choose more than one device to be rolled back to a previous version at the same time
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2The rollback feature is tied in well with the existing job control and logging mechanisms and hence you can monitor the status of the rollback as they are being performed
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2if there are no other questions about rollback, I would like to move on to the next topic - Repository Updates
Khaled Omaris there any new feature to the web interface related to this rollback process ?
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2yes this is part of the iDRAC web interface.... Once you login to the iDRAC web interface, navigate to the Update and Rollback Tab on the left
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2On the right you should see the Update | Rollback Options, choose Rollback
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2You should see a list Components, their current version and the version that is available for rollback
Khaled Omaryou can make reports regarding all the rollbacked devices ?
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2yes, once you select one or more device for rollback and click Install, the job queue and the lifecycle log should have corresponding entries for each rollback that is being performed
Khaled Omargood
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2great...
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2moving on to Remote Repository Updates
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2How many of you like to find out which device on your machine is out dated, go to support.dell.com and find the update thats applicable to that device, download it
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2and install it one at a time
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2?
hypervfanAlways good with stuff that can be automated :)
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2exactly...
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2I always found that process to be very time consuming and error prone... as I might download the wrong file, the file that not applicable etc...
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2and hence we came up with the idea of a remote repository based update....
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2Remote Repository Update provides the mechanism to update a wide variety of firmware and applications installed on the PowerEdge server at the click of a button. This feature uses an update repository created using the Dell Repository Manager to download and install the updates. The repository could either be ftp.dell.com or a user generated repository on a local network share.
Didier Van HoyeSo basically we can phone home & get the latest DUP to be installed one by one ...
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2exactly...
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2we also went one step further... i always found calling home very stressful, parents your know :) , what about phone a friend ?
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2we all like to phone a friend right... help me when I am in trouble kinda stuff....
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2what does that mean here ?
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2not only can you get updates from ftp.dell.com... but you can instead create a local repository on your secure local network and download all the updates from that local share...
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2Remote repository updates provides a simple and easy way to automatically figure out the latest updates that are available for your PowerEdge server and install it all at once at the click of a button.
Didier Van HoyeSo we can use our existing local repository for that?
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2yes you can, a local network share that contains all the update packages
Khaled Omarlocal repository will be great incase of large number of devices
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2for the iDRAC to compare the packages that are available on the local network share with the versions that are installed on your machine, you need to create the local repository using the Dell Repository Manager
Khaled Omari mean updates for devices
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2which creates an index file of all updates that are avialable, the devices it is applicable to and their versions
Didier Van HoyeOk, that's cool, we know the repository manager
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2awesome...
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2so you could use repository manager to create a replica or a sub set of ftp.dell.com thats specific to the machines in your data center
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2copy it to a local share, point the iDRAC to that share
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2and thats it...
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2the iDRAC now compares the versions thats currently running on it host with the one thats available on the local share...
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2downloads and installs the updates
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2again... these are linked to the job queue and lifecycle log infrastructure, thereby enabling your to track these updates
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2Remote Repository Updates is supported via the iDRAC7 Web interface, WSMAN, RACADM and the Local (F10) Lifecycle Controller UI
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2that brings us to our third topic, auto updates...
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2with the latest firmware, you can automate this update process to happen every so often as you desire
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2you can setup the iDRAC to go query your local repository every so often for updates
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2and also install any updates that are available
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2For example, you can now schedule updates to happen the last day of each month at midnight. Once the scheduled time is elapsed, the iDRAC will query the remote repository for a list of available updates and compare it to the versions that are currently installed. If new updates are found, the iDRAC will download the update packages and update the corresponding devices.
Khaled Omarfrom ftp.dell.com and local repository ?
Didier Van HoyeSo basicaly you add new servers, configure autoupdate and it will get all the firmware you've got in the repository automatically
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2yes, if your iDRAC has access to ftp.dell.com, you can configure it to look for updates on ftp.dell.com and install them as they are available
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2exactly Didier
Khaled Omarbetter to make test for the updates before automate the process
Khaled Omarso i mean will be less used for me
Didier Van Hoyesure, but if you at 10 servers of same make to esiting 100 in DC you can just leave them afeter racking and they could be update by the next morning for you
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2you can also manage the updates by only updating the local repository with tested firmwares.... thereby your machines only pick up known and tested frimwares for updates
Khaled Omarsure
Khaled Omarbut after test
Didier Van HoyeYes
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2we will be updating our tech center with whitepapers for these new features in the coming weeks...
Dennis SmithAwesome! We would like to thank Raja for going over all these features with us today and you guys for joining!
Dennis SmithAny last questions before we wrap up this chat?
Khaled Omarthanks
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2I hope this was a useful session and that I answered your questions, please write to us with any further questions you may have and we will be happy to assist you
Didier Van HoyeThx Raja
Dennis SmithAs always, the chat will be posted later for recap...and if you have any questions feel free to post them on our forums!
Dell_Raja_Tamilarasan 2Thanks everyone...
Dennis Smithno chat next week...see you guys in 2 weeks!
hypervfanThanks
Didier Van HoyeOK
Didier Van Hoyethank you
Didier Van Hoyesee you next tille
Didier Van Hoyetime

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